Removing J bike carbs - Revision history

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	Make sure both [[How do I adjust the floats?\|float heights]] are set to 17mm. Mixture screws on this bike were set to 1.5 to 2 turns out for the left cylinder and 2.5 to 3 turns out for the right from the factory. [[How do I adjust the idle mixture?\|Set them both]] to 2.5 turns.		Make sure both [[How do I adjust the floats?\|float heights]] are set to 17mm. Mixture screws on this bike were set to 1.5 to 2 turns out for the left cylinder and 2.5 to 3 turns out for the right from the factory. [[How do I adjust the idle mixture?\|Set them both]] to 2.5 turns.

−	Put everything back together (much faster than taking it off) and ~~set~~ the petcock to prime. Don't forget to switch back to the on position; you don't need a flooded engine in the near future.	+	Put everything back together (much faster than taking it off). When re-assembling, do the airbox side first, and have the battery tray out and the airbox unbolted from the frame. Two bolts, one lower left front, one upper right rear, 4mm hex heads. The airbox can move about 3/4".
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		+	Set the petcock to prime for the first start. Don't forget to switch back to the on position; you don't need a flooded engine in the near future.

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 [[Category:EX250J Info]]
-Motorcycles, and Kawasakis in general, and EX250s specifically, are known for not always having all their carb settings in perfect order right out of the box. Here's how to take care of [[My '08 is a cold-blooded ogre|that problem]].
+Motorcycles, and Kawasakis in general, and EX250s specifically, are known for not always having all their carb settings in perfect order right out of the box. Here's how to take care of [[My 2008 is a cold-blooded ogre|that problem]].
 Start by [[Removing 250J tank & bodywork|removing the fairings]]. Then, once the fairings are out of the way, you get to see all the different things that are still in your way to get at the carbs. There's a lot. Expect ''at least'' an hour and a half to get them out.

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 Now you have the carbs in your hands. If you think the gas is new and good, you can just drain the carbs into the tank. Otherwise, use a correct container. You need that 3mm allen key again.
-Now you just need to remove the phillips screws holding the float bowls to the carb bodies and drill out the [[Removing idle mixture screw plugs|mixture screw protective caps]]. Then you can then make all the [[How do I work on the carbs?|adjustments]] you need to the carbs.
+Now you just need to remove the phillips screws holding the float bowls to the carb bodies and drill out the [[Removing idle mixture screw plugs|mixture screw protective caps]]. Then you can make all the [[How do I work on the carbs?|adjustments]] you need to the carbs.
 Make sure both [[How do I adjust the floats?|float heights]] are set to 17mm. Mixture screws on this bike were set to 1.5 to 2 turns out for the left cylinder and 2.5 to 3 turns out for the right from the factory. [[How do I adjust the idle mixture?|Set them both]] to 2.5 turns.
 Put everything back together (much faster than taking it off) and set the petcock to prime. Don't forget to switch back to the on position; you don't need a flooded engine in the near future.

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 Down on the left side of the airbox behind the S tube is the other 5mm bolt that holds the airbox to the frame. Remove it. It's right above the front sprocket but buried in there. It holds a thin piece of metal that guides a tube, which only helps the camouflage. You might want to put a pick-up magnet on it when removing, so you don't drop it into the sprocket cover.
-Now, loosen the 3mm allen bolts that hold the airbox to the inlet side of the carbs and push it as far back as you can. Just like the old airbox, it won't go far. You can remove the air injection tube on the top of the airbox for a couple more mm.
+Loosen the 3mm allen bolts that hold the airbox to the inlet side of the carbs and push it as far back as you can. It won't go far. You can remove the air injection tube on the top of the airbox for a couple more mm.
-Now, just like the old bike, loosen the two clamps holding the intake boots to the carbs/head and pop the carbs back. Use a screwdriver and remove the left intake boot from the engine. This takes finesse. If you've done it on the [[How do I remove the carbs to work on them?|old bike]], you will notice that it's a bit harder to do it on the new bike. Why? Because you can't remove the carb to airbox boots for extra room.
+Loosen the two clamps holding the intake boots to the carbs/head and pop the carbs back. Use a screwdriver and remove the left intake boot from the engine. This takes finesse. If you've done it on the [[How do I remove the carbs to work on them?|old bike]], you will notice that it's a bit harder to do it on the new bike. Why? Because you can't remove the carb to airbox boots for extra room.
-Now, remove the choke cable from the carbs. You can do this earlier if you like. Take the slack out of it by manually sliding the mechanism on the carbs.
+Remove the choke cable from the carbs. You can do this earlier if you like. Take the slack out of it by manually sliding the mechanism on the carbs.
 Remove the vacuum hose from the left carb. Use some more finesse and pull the carbs out of the left side of the bike.
-So, now you have the carbs in your hands. If you think the gas is new and good, you can just drain the carbs into the tank. Otherwise, use a correct container. You need that 3mm allen key again.
+Now you have the carbs in your hands. If you think the gas is new and good, you can just drain the carbs into the tank. Otherwise, use a correct container. You need that 3mm allen key again.
 Now you just need to remove the phillips screws holding the float bowls to the carb bodies and drill out the [[Removing idle mixture screw plugs|mixture screw protective caps]]. Then you can then make all the [[How do I work on the carbs?|adjustments]] you need to the carbs.

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 Motorcycles, and Kawasakis in general, and EX250s specifically, are known for not always having all their carb settings in perfect order right out of the box. Here's how to take care of [[My '08 is a cold-blooded ogre|that problem]].
-Start by [[Removing 250J tank & bodywork|removing the fairings]]. Then, once the fairings are out of the way, you get to see all the different things that are still in your way to get at the carbs. There's a lot -- no 10-minute carb removals on this bike.
+Start by [[Removing 250J tank & bodywork|removing the fairings]]. Then, once the fairings are out of the way, you get to see all the different things that are still in your way to get at the carbs. There's a lot. Expect ''at least'' an hour and a half to get them out.
 [[Removing 250J tank & bodywork|Remove the gas tank]]. You can wait until later, but it'll go easier on you if you do it now.

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 [[Category:EX250J Info]]
-Motorcycles, and Kawasakis in general, and EX250s specifically, are known for not always having all their carb settings in perfect order right out of the box. Here's how to take care of that problem.
+Motorcycles, and Kawasakis in general, and EX250s specifically, are known for not always having all their carb settings in perfect order right out of the box. Here's how to take care of [[My '08 is a cold-blooded ogre|that problem]].
-Start by [[Removing 250J tank & bodywork|removing the fairings]]. Then, once the fairings are out of the way, you get to see all the different things that are still in your way to get at the carbs. There's a lot; no 10-minute carb removals on this bike.
+Start by [[Removing 250J tank & bodywork|removing the fairings]]. Then, once the fairings are out of the way, you get to see all the different things that are still in your way to get at the carbs. There's a lot - no 10-minute carb removals on this bike.
 [[Removing 250J tank & bodywork|Remove the gas tank]]. You can wait until later, but it'll go easier on you if you do it now.
-So, now the tank's out of the way, but you still can't really get the carbs out easily. Go to the right side, bring your #2 phillips, and remove the screw holding the throttle cable plate to the carb. Remove the cables from the carbs. Some find it easier to loosen the cable nuts and detach the cable ends. Measure or mark where they are for when you put them back.
+Even with the tank out of the way, you still can't really get the carbs out easily. Go to the right side, bring your #2 phillips, and remove the screw holding the throttle cable plate to the carb. Remove the cables from the carbs. Some find it easier to loosen the cable nuts and detach the cable ends. Measure or mark where they are for when you put them back.
-Grab a 10mm and an 8mm socket and, on the right side, remove the bolts holding the coolant tank (optional) to the bike and the bracket where the upper rear bolt mounts the fairing (5mm). Two 8mm-headed bolts hold the coolant tank, and three 10mm-headed bolts hold the brackets. On the left side, pop the idle speed screw out of the bracket, and remove the bolts holding the fairing bracket thing out of the way.
+Grab a 10mm and an 8mm socket and, on the right side, remove the bolts holding the coolant tank (optional) to the bike and the bracket where the upper rear bolt mounts the fairing (5mm). Two 8mm-headed bolts hold the coolant tank, and three 10mm-headed bolts hold the brackets. On the left side, pop the idle speed screw out of the bracket and remove the bolts holding the fairing bracket thing out of the way.
-Oh yeah, they routed the clutch cable through a loop that is part of the coolant reservoir bottle. Good luck moving it out of the way enough to remove the 8mm headed bolt at the bracket.
+They routed the clutch cable through a loop that is part of the coolant reservoir bottle, so it may not be easy to move it out of the way enough to remove the 8mm headed bolt at the bracket.
-So, now you are getting closer to removing the carbs, but you aren't there yet. Remove the 3 phillips screws holding the battery box and its cover. Remove the battery.
+Now you are getting closer to removing the carbs, but you aren't there yet. Remove the 3 phillips screws holding the battery box and its cover. Remove the battery.
 Pull out the foam that the battery was sitting in, and remove the final two phillips screws holding the tray in and the battery tray.
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 The rail that the gas tank mounts to is held down by four bolts (10mm). There is also a bolt on the right that attaches the airbox to that bracket (5mm). Remove them all and move the bracket out of the way.
-Down on the left side of the airbox behind the S tube is the other 5mm bolt that holds the airbox to the frame. Remove it.
+Down on the left side of the airbox behind the S tube is the other 5mm bolt that holds the airbox to the frame. Remove it. It's right above the front sprocket but buried in there. It holds a thin piece of metal that guides a tube, which only helps the camouflage. You might want to put a pick-up magnet on it when removing, so you don't drop it into the sprocket cover.
-Now, loosen the 3mm allen bolts that hold the airbox to the inlet side of the carbs, and push it as far back as you can. Just like the old airbox, it won't go far. You can remove the air injection tube on the top of the airbox for a couple more mm.
+Now, loosen the 3mm allen bolts that hold the airbox to the inlet side of the carbs and push it as far back as you can. Just like the old airbox, it won't go far. You can remove the air injection tube on the top of the airbox for a couple more mm.
-Now, just like the old bike, loosen the two clamps holding the intake boots to the carbs/head and pop the carbs back. Use a screwdriver and remove the left intake boot from the engine. This takes finesse. If you've done it on the [[How do I remove the carbs to work on them?|old bike]], you will notice that it's a bit harder to do it on the new bike. Why? Because you can't remove the carb to airbox boots for extra room. Bastards.
+Now, just like the old bike, loosen the two clamps holding the intake boots to the carbs/head and pop the carbs back. Use a screwdriver and remove the left intake boot from the engine. This takes finesse. If you've done it on the [[How do I remove the carbs to work on them?|old bike]], you will notice that it's a bit harder to do it on the new bike. Why? Because you can't remove the carb to airbox boots for extra room.
-Now, remove the choke cable from the carbs and the vacuum hose from the left carb. Use some more finesse and pull the carbs out of the left side of the bike.
+Now, remove the choke cable from the carbs. You can do this earlier if you like. Take the slack out of it by manually sliding the mechanism on the carbs.
-So, now you have the carbs in your hands. If you think the gas is new and good you can just drain the carbs into the tank. Otherwise, use a correct container. You need that 3mm allen key again.
+Remove the vacuum hose from the left carb. Use some more finesse and pull the carbs out of the left side of the bike.
-Now you just need to remove the phillips screws holding the float bowls to the carb bodies and drill out the [[Removing idle mixture screw plugs|mixture screw protective caps]], and you can then make all the [[How do I work on the carbs?|adjustments]] you need to the carbs.
+So, now you have the carbs in your hands. If you think the gas is new and good, you can just drain the carbs into the tank. Otherwise, use a correct container. You need that 3mm allen key again.
-Amazingly, both floats were perfectly set to 17mm's. Mixture screws on this bike, for reference, were approximately set to 1.5 to 2 turns out for the left cylinder and 2.5 to 3 turns out for the right cylinder. That just ain't right, as you all know. [[How do I adjust the idle mixture?|Set them both]] to 2.5 turns.
+Now you just need to remove the phillips screws holding the float bowls to the carb bodies and drill out the [[Removing idle mixture screw plugs|mixture screw protective caps]]. Then you can then make all the [[How do I work on the carbs?|adjustments]] you need to the carbs.
 Put everything back together (much faster than taking it off) and set the petcock to prime. Don't forget to switch back to the on position; you don't need a flooded engine in the near future.

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 So, now the tank's out of the way, but you still can't really get the carbs out easily. Go to the right side, bring your #2 phillips, and remove the screw holding the throttle cable plate to the carb. Remove the cables from the carbs.
-Now, grab a 10mm and an 8mm socket and, on the right side, remove the bolts holding the coolant tank to the bike and the bracket where the upper rear 5mm headed bolt mounts the fairing. Two 8mm headed bolts hold the coolant tank, and three 10mm headed bolts hold the brackets. On the left side, pop the idle speed screw out of the bracket, and remove the bolts holding the fairing bracket thing out of the way.
+Grab a 10mm and an 8mm socket and, on the right side, remove the bolts holding the coolant tank to the bike and the bracket where the upper rear bolt mounts the fairing (5mm). Two 8mm-headed bolts hold the coolant tank, and three 10mm-headed bolts hold the brackets. On the left side, pop the idle speed screw out of the bracket, and remove the bolts holding the fairing bracket thing out of the way.
 Oh yeah, they routed the clutch cable through a loop that is part of the coolant reservoir bottle. Good luck moving it out of the way enough to remove the 8mm headed bolt at the bracket. Bastards.
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 Pull out the foam that the battery was sitting in, and remove the final two phillips screws holding the tray in and the battery tray.
-Now, the rail that the gas tank mounts to is held down by four 10mm headed bolts. There is also a 5mm headed bolt on the right that attaches the airbox to that bracket. Remove them all, and move the bracket out of the way.
+The rail that the gas tank mounts to is held down by four bolts (10mm). There is also a bolt on the right that attaches the airbox to that bracket (5mm). Remove them all and move the bracket out of the way.
 Down on the left side of the airbox behind the S tube is the other 5mm bolt that holds the airbox to the frame. Remove it.
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 Now, just like the old bike, loosen the two clamps holding the intake boots to the carbs/head and pop the carbs back. Use a screwdriver and remove the left intake boot from the engine. This takes finesse. If you've done it on the [[How do I remove the carbs to work on them?|old bike]], you will notice that it's a bit harder to do it on the new bike. Why? Because you can't remove the carb to airbox boots for extra room. Bastards.
-Now, remove the choke cable from the carbs and the vacuum hose from the left carb. Use some more finesse and pull the carbs out of the left side of the bike. If you've done this on the old bike, then you know what to do.
+Now, remove the choke cable from the carbs and the vacuum hose from the left carb. Use some more finesse and pull the carbs out of the left side of the bike.
 So, now you have the carbs in your hands. If you think the gas is new and good you can just drain the carbs into the tank. Otherwise, use a correct container. You need that 3mm allen key again.
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 Now you just need to remove the phillips screws holding the float bowls to the carb bodies and drill out the [[Removing idle mixture screw plugs|mixture screw protective caps]], and you can then make all the [[How do I work on the carbs?|adjustments]] you need to the carbs.
-Amazingly, both floats were perfectly set to 17mm's. Mixture screws on this bike, for reference, were approximately set to 1.5 to 2 turns out for the left cylinder, and 2.5 to 3 turns out for the right cylinder. That just ain't right, as you all know. [[How do I adjust the idle mixture?|Set them both]] to 2.5 turns.
+Amazingly, both floats were perfectly set to 17mm's. Mixture screws on this bike, for reference, were approximately set to 1.5 to 2 turns out for the left cylinder and 2.5 to 3 turns out for the right cylinder. That just ain't right, as you all know. [[How do I adjust the idle mixture?|Set them both]] to 2.5 turns.
-Put everything back together (much faster than taking it off) and set the petcock to prime. The bike fired right up after 3 seconds of cranking with the choke on full. Don't forget to switch back to the on position. Don't need a flooded engine in the near future.
+Put everything back together (much faster than taking it off) and set the petcock to prime. Don't forget to switch back to the on position; you don't need a flooded engine in the near future.
 So what was the outcome? A bike that fires up easily when ice cold, takes off better from a standing start, and idles better. And now the throttle actually feels like it is controlling the engine when you get past the 1/4 throttle position.
 The bike now feels so much better than when it left the showroom.

← Older revision		Revision as of 05:43, 10 November 2009
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−	[[Category: ~~2008~~ EX250J Info]]	+	[[Category:EX250J Info]]
	Motorcycles, and Kawasakis in general, and EX250s specifically, are known for not always having all their carb settings in perfect order right out of the box. Here's how to take care of that problem.		Motorcycles, and Kawasakis in general, and EX250s specifically, are known for not always having all their carb settings in perfect order right out of the box. Here's how to take care of that problem.