Ride height and different tire sizes - Revision history

Bokonon at 19:46, 16 August 2011

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	Comments from people who have changed tire sizes:		Comments from people who have changed tire sizes:

	*I ran a 100-80 and 130-90 (instead of 100-80 and 120-80) and the difference in new tire vs worn tire took more getting used to than the ~~8mm~~ height difference ~~(in the rear)~~. Same when I switched from that to a 100-90 front from the 100-80. Spend a few miles getting used to it and you will be fine.		*I ran a 100-80 and 130-90 (instead of 100-80 and 120-80) and the difference in new tire vs worn tire took more getting used to than the height difference. Same when I switched from that to a 100-90 front from the 100-80. Spend a few miles getting used to it and you will be fine.

	*I rode with a 100/80 front and a BT45 130/90 rear, then a 100/90 front... not a whole lot of difference that couldn't be attributed to the new tire feeling IMO.		*I rode with a 100/80 front and a BT45 130/90 rear, then a 100/90 front... not a whole lot of difference that couldn't be attributed to the new tire feeling IMO.

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Tire sizes and ride height

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	But wait, you say; there are sidewalls on the top and bottom of the tire. This is immaterial for calculating ride height, as the extra diameter above the axle does not affect the height of the bike. Only the distance from the axle to the ground affects the change in ride height.		But wait, you say; there are sidewalls on the top and bottom of the tire. This is immaterial for calculating ride height, as the extra diameter above the axle does not affect the height of the bike. Only the distance from the axle to the ground affects the change in ride height.

	Remember also that tire sizing is not an exact science, even between different tires from the same manufacturer. So, a 120-width tire may be 118mm or 123mm. The few millimeters won't make any noticeable difference.		Remember also that tire sizing is not an exact science, even between different tires from the same manufacturer. So, a 120-width tire may be 118mm or 123mm. The few millimeters won't make any noticeable difference.

			For more information on calculating tire dimensions, see Tire Rack's [http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=7 Tire Tech].

	====Ride height for tires that fit the Ninja====		====Ride height for tires that fit the Ninja====

Bokonon at 01:02, 22 March 2009

2009-03-22T01:02:22Z

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[[Category: Tires]]
====How do different sizes feel/work?====

You can generally change tire sizes within the recommended tires in the FAQ without noticing any great difference in handling. It is important to remind yourself for the first several rides that you have a new tire that is rounder (less squared-off) than your old one. Take it easy and get used to the different handling.

'''Caution:''' One change that is not recommended is putting a taller tire on the front without putting an equivalent on the rear. In other words, if you're putting a 100/90-16 on the front, use a 130/90-16 on the back. The handling of the bike will be compromised with a taller front tire.

Comments from people who have changed tire sizes:

*I ran a 100-80 and 130-90 (instead of 100-80 and 120-80) and the difference in new tire vs worn tire took more getting used to than the 8mm height difference (in the rear). Same when I switched from that to a 100-90 front from the 100-80. Spend a few miles getting used to it and you will be fine.

*I rode with a 100/80 front and a BT45 130/90 rear, then a 100/90 front... not a whole lot of difference that couldn't be attributed to the new tire feeling IMO.

====Tire sizes and ride height====

Figuring out the difference in ride height between different tire sizes is relatively simple. We'll use a common replacement size for the rear, 130/90-16. The first number (130) is the width of the tire in millimeters. The second (90) is the aspect ratio (profile), or how tall the tire sidewall is as a percentage of its width. To get the sidewall height and figure out the difference in ride height, you just multiply the width by the aspect ratio (expressed as a decimal). So, for our example the math works out this way:

130/90-16 Sidewall height = 130 x .9 = 117

And a shorter tire would look like this:

120/80-16 Sidewall height = 120 X .8 = 96

So, the ride height difference is 117-96 = 21mm

If you need inches to visualize the difference, divide 21/25.4 = .83 inches

But wait, you say; there are sidewalls on the top and bottom of the tire. This is immaterial for calculating ride height, as the extra diameter above the axle does not affect the height of the bike. Only the distance from the axle to the ground affects the change in ride height.

Remember also that tire sizing is not an exact science, even between different tires from the same manufacturer. So, a 120-width tire may be 118mm or 123mm. The few millimeters won't make any noticeable difference.

====Ride height for tires that fit the Ninja====

Rear:

*130/90 sidewall height is 117mm.
*130/80 OEM sidewall height is 104mm
*120/80 sidewall height is 96mm

So, a 130/90-16 tire has a ride height of 13mm taller than stock, and a 120/80-16 gives a ride 8mm shorter than OEM.

Front:

*100/90-16 sidewall height is 90mm.
*100/80-16 OEM sidewall height is 80mm.

A 100/90-16 is therefore 10mm taller than OEM.

The GT501 110/90-16 front is quite tall at 19mm more than stock (110 X .9 = 99mm), which is why you have to [[How do I raise the front fender to fit a 110-width tire?|raise the fender]] to avoid [[Size 110/90-16 tires|clearance problems]].