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==I can't see behind me== | ==I can't see behind me== | ||
You have mirrors on your bicycle, right? You don't? Think of riding your motorcycle in the same way. Turn your head and save your life. | |||
Not being able to see behind you is a common complaint, especially from those new to the Ninjette, but some long-time riders say that the stock 250 mirrors are better than on other bikes. If you're trying to see behind you as well as you can in a car, you're bound to be disappointed. | |||
There are some tweaks you can do to your Ninja to improve rearward visibility; these are listed below. Just remember to also turn and look before you change lanes. Motorcycle mirrors should never be completely trusted. | |||
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==Swapping mirror mounts== | |||
Depending on your taste, this may make your bike look like a broken-winged bird, but it does improve the functionality of the stock mirrors. All that's necessary is to take the mirrors apart, remove the mirror mounts (circled), and swap the mounts from one side to the other. Keep the mirrors on the same side of the bike. | |||
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This bike is a bit different from stock, as it has [[Am I too small for this motorcycle?|Motorcycle Larry risers]], but these photos will give you a good idea of what the mod looks like. | |||
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==Bar-end mirrors== | ==Bar-end mirrors== | ||
These mirrors will give you more visibility to the rear. The main advantages to bar-end mirrors are that you don't need to move around to look in them, and even with flat glass they give an unobstructed view of what is behind and to the side of you. Another advantage is that you can turn your bars while you're stopped and get a better view of what's coming up from behind. | |||
There | There are different kinds of bar-end mirrors. Some replace the stock bar ends, some are designed to fit around bar ends, and some bolt through the bar ends into the bars. Try to get a mirror that will preserve your bar-ends, as they are there to reduce handlebar vibration. | ||
Many models of bar end mirrors are made for a universal fit. For these, it's usually necessary to remove or grind off the part that fits into the bars in order to save your bar ends. Then just add a longer bolt and screw them into the bars as normal. Some have curved glass, while others have flat. Some of the more expensive ones may fold up for maneuvering in tight spaces. If this is a concern, check first. | |||
====Companies to look at==== | |||
*[http://www.emgo.com/main_layout.html Emgo] Available at nearly any bike shop. Ridiculously cheap and reliable. | |||
*[http://www.bikemaster.com/bmstrv2.nsf/home?openform Bikemaster] Like Emgo, sold at shops. A major player in aftermarket parts & accessories. | |||
*[http://www.constructorsrg.com/mirrors/index.html CRG] | *[http://www.constructorsrg.com/mirrors/index.html CRG] Billet mirrors that are expensive but much better-made than those that look the same on eBay. | ||
*[http://www. | *[http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/product.jsp?store=Main&catId=115&leafCatId=11508&skuId=391929&productId=p391929&mmyId= Cipa] A teardrop-shaped mirror that's a little out of the ordinary. | ||
*[http://www. | *[http://www.rkexcelamerica.com/street_ken_sean.html Ken Sean] Affordable and widely available. | ||
*[http://www. | *[http://www.motostrano.com/nabarendmi.html Napoleon] May not be available due to distribution problems. | ||
*[http://www.classicpartsltd.com/classicmotorcyclemirrors.htm Halcyon] Pricey, for the cafe racer crowd. | |||
*[http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-parts/mirrors-grips-handlebars.htm webBikeWorld] has links to dozens of mirror manufacturers. | *[http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-parts/mirrors-grips-handlebars.htm webBikeWorld] has links to dozens of mirror manufacturers. | ||
===="Ebay" mirrors==== | |||
eBay often has many dealers selling bar end mirrors. These may come without a brand name (many of them are distributed by Emgo) but the price is right. These are shown below. They are available at dozens of places on eBay (just search 'bar end mirror') or from [http://www.d2moto.com/p-5498-universal-honda-kawasaki-suzuki-yamaha-black-billet-motorcycle-bar-end-mirrors-street.aspx D2MOTO], among others. | |||
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They look like this: | |||
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To install, remove the silver insert and put a longer stainless steel bolt in. These are shown with 14 oz [[Removing & replacing bar ends|HVMP bar ends]]. They also work just fine with the stock bar ends. | |||
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This is not the highest quality product, but it's a very economical way to get better visibility and a different look for the front of your bike. The hardware can rust and parts can snap off if you're overly aggressive while tightening (see picture above). | |||
If you're going with bar end mirrors, you'll probably want to remove your stock mirrors. You can get block off plates to cover the holes left in the fairing. Search eBay for 'Ninja 250 block off'. Ebay vendors come and go, but one that has had them is called [http://stores.ebay.com/Motorcycle-and-Sport-Bike-Parts Billet Sport Bike Parts]. | |||
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==Standard handlebar-mounted mirror option== | ==Standard handlebar-mounted mirror option== | ||
The 'body' mounted mirrors of the Ninja are a bit forward of mirrors that would be mounted in the more traditional handlebar mount method. | The 'body' mounted mirrors of the Ninja are a bit forward of mirrors that would be mounted in the more traditional handlebar mount method. Bar-mounted mirrors are further back and make it easier to get a little more of a view behind you without necessarily going wider. They are also easier to make wider without having to resort to fabricating or other more drastic methods. | ||
If you want to put your mirrors on the bars there are plenty of options. Later 250's have mounts on the brake and clutch perches for mirrors. Most have at least the one on the clutch side. Handlebar-mount mirrors are available from [http://emgo.com/main_layout.html EMGO] & [http://www.bikemaster.com/bmstrv2.nsf/home?openform Bikemaster] (both sell through shops) and nearly every parts house on the web. Download the Emgo Filter-Mirror Catalog pdf or look at the Bikemaster site and see all the different styles of mirrors you can get. | |||
If you want to put your mirrors on the bars there are plenty of options. Later 250's have mounts on the brake and clutch perches for mirrors. Most have at least the one on the clutch side. Handlebar-mount mirrors are available from [http://emgo.com/main_layout.html EMGO] ( | |||
Shown below is a 2007 EX250 with mirrors from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_KLR650 Kawasaki KLR]. Many different mirrors will work on the bike, but this is a known application. These KLR mirrors give a lot better rear view than the stock ones. | Shown below is a 2007 EX250 with mirrors from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_KLR650 Kawasaki KLR]. Many different mirrors will work on the bike, but this is a known application. These KLR mirrors give a lot better rear view than the stock ones. | ||
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No modifications are needed to get the mirrors to fit, but it's not easy to do. One person said that he could only get one mounting nut on the left one. The nuts are difficult to start and take a lot of turns. They have to be removed and put back on again when you go to adjust the valves, etc... | No modifications are needed to get the mirrors to fit, but it's not easy to do. One person said that he could only get one mounting nut on the left one. The nuts are difficult to start and take a lot of turns. They have to be removed and put back on again when you go to adjust the valves, etc... | ||
==Extensions== | |||
Mirror extensions/brackets can be made, but if you are good at fabricating you've probably already thought of this. There is no standard mod yet in this direction. One problem is that it is conceivable that the extra torque (from the extra length and extra wind) could tweak your upper fairing stay, so go carefully. | |||
You can definitely widen the mirror positioning with extensions and get a better view behind you, without wasting huge amounts of mirror 'real estate' on your elbows. If you do any lane splitting though, widened positioning may be noticeable. Also, the unique nature of the body-mounted mirrors makes widening hardware less simple than tweaking standard mirrors or exploring alternatives. | |||
If you want to try to make your own extensions, you can take a look at this [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions|not-exactly-a-how-to]] for some ideas. [[Toolmaker's mirror extensions v3|Version 3]] is a little more refined. You're gonna need some tools... | |||