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There are a lot of things to do when trying to recover:
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The major thing you have to fear in the middle of a corner is fear itself. Unless you didn’t slow for the corner at all, then you're not going too fast for the bike. There is every chance that the bike can make the turn. You just have to accept that as fact and then make it happen.
  
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1) Use the rear brake to tighten up the line a little bit. It feels right to me, but the real racer guys say this is not the answer because if the rear wheel breaks loose the rear end will go wide and cause you to crash.  
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The trouble comes with ''your perception'' of how fast you’re going. Chances are, you haven’t tested yourself or your bike at this speed yet. The key is to '''look into the corner and ride it out'''. The worst case is that you'll [[Biker Speak|lowside]], and really, if you were going that fast in the first place, a lowside is the best option.
  
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2) Reduce throttle and use both brakes to slow slightly, realizing that most of the traction is being used for turning. It will slow you down, but uses additional traction.  
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The first thing many inexperienced riders do when going into a corner too hot is do everything wrong. Chopping the throttle and hitting the brakes is bad, bad, bad. It will put more of the bike's weight over the front wheel, which causes the bike to become less stable.
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Braking mid-corner is nearly always a bad option. It will only upset the suspension by throwing weight forward.  When you are coming in too fast, hitting the brakes will also cause you to focus on the edge of the road, which is coming up fast and straight in front of you. While you try to stop or slow the bike, you’ll just end up focusing more and more on the edge of the road. It is too late at this point, and as soon as the front tire goes off the road, the bike washes out and you fly off it.
  
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3) Lean to the inside and continue to apply the throttle. Leaning in will cause the bike to straighten up, giving more ground clearance so hard parts don't scrape. It takes lots of courage to go faster when your brain already says you're going too fast, but often it's the right thing to do.
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====What you should do====
  
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4) Straighten up, brake in a straight line to scrub off speed, then release the brakes and turn in tighter. Requires some room to run wider than you're already going.  
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*Exaggerate your [[Looking through the curve|look through the corner]].
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*[[Shifting body weight for a turn|Move your upper body]] to the inside of the corner. This increases ground clearance, protects your confidence because it makes sharp cornering feel more natural, and makes it more difficult for your eyes to look where they shouldn't be looking.
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*Push down on the inside bar ([[Countersteering|countersteer]]).
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*Accelerate ''slightly'' through the turn. This is to balance the bike, not to speed up. Don’t grab a handful of throttle; just use slightly more than constant throttle. And don't do the opposite: Letting off the throttle will upset the bike’s suspension nearly as much as using the brakes. It overloads the front suspension and means more risk of a lowside.
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*Turn
  
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I don't know the right answer, but it looks to me like practice should be done before you have to do it in traffic. I've used all of the above at different times and under different conditions.  
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You will either make the corner this way or lowside. Those are the two best outcomes.
  
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Keith Code's book '''A Twist of the Wrist 2''' spends about 1/3 of the book covering this question. He tends to go with #3 above. In short, staying on the throttle ( you don't have to accelerate) and leaning more will help you get through the corner. Backing off the throttle makes the bike do everything wrong. Read the book. It has saved many riders from crashes.
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====Steps to memorize====
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*Look through the corner
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*Move and lean your body to the inside
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*Push down on the inside bar
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*Accelerate just a bit
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*Turn
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====Reprogram your brain====
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The hardest part of all this is to order your brain to refocus on the arc you must take to make the corner. You must really force yourself to look at and follow your path through. The second hardest is forcing yourself to not do the panic braking you so badly want to do. You have to order yourself to let go of both brakes.
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To simplify: Just look and try. Very likely the bike will make it, and very likely you will learn a lesson - either that or go splat the next time.
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All of the tips listed here are actually part of normal cornering technique. Practice them and make them part of your normal riding.  
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For more advice, see [[Turning a motorcycle]].

Latest revision as of 05:28, 21 November 2009

The major thing you have to fear in the middle of a corner is fear itself. Unless you didn’t slow for the corner at all, then you're not going too fast for the bike. There is every chance that the bike can make the turn. You just have to accept that as fact and then make it happen.

The trouble comes with your perception of how fast you’re going. Chances are, you haven’t tested yourself or your bike at this speed yet. The key is to look into the corner and ride it out. The worst case is that you'll lowside, and really, if you were going that fast in the first place, a lowside is the best option.

The first thing many inexperienced riders do when going into a corner too hot is do everything wrong. Chopping the throttle and hitting the brakes is bad, bad, bad. It will put more of the bike's weight over the front wheel, which causes the bike to become less stable.

Braking mid-corner is nearly always a bad option. It will only upset the suspension by throwing weight forward. When you are coming in too fast, hitting the brakes will also cause you to focus on the edge of the road, which is coming up fast and straight in front of you. While you try to stop or slow the bike, you’ll just end up focusing more and more on the edge of the road. It is too late at this point, and as soon as the front tire goes off the road, the bike washes out and you fly off it.

What you should do

  • Exaggerate your look through the corner.
  • Move your upper body to the inside of the corner. This increases ground clearance, protects your confidence because it makes sharp cornering feel more natural, and makes it more difficult for your eyes to look where they shouldn't be looking.
  • Push down on the inside bar (countersteer).
  • Accelerate slightly through the turn. This is to balance the bike, not to speed up. Don’t grab a handful of throttle; just use slightly more than constant throttle. And don't do the opposite: Letting off the throttle will upset the bike’s suspension nearly as much as using the brakes. It overloads the front suspension and means more risk of a lowside.
  • Turn

You will either make the corner this way or lowside. Those are the two best outcomes.

Steps to memorize

  • Look through the corner
  • Move and lean your body to the inside
  • Push down on the inside bar
  • Accelerate just a bit
  • Turn

Reprogram your brain

The hardest part of all this is to order your brain to refocus on the arc you must take to make the corner. You must really force yourself to look at and follow your path through. The second hardest is forcing yourself to not do the panic braking you so badly want to do. You have to order yourself to let go of both brakes.

To simplify: Just look and try. Very likely the bike will make it, and very likely you will learn a lesson - either that or go splat the next time.

All of the tips listed here are actually part of normal cornering technique. Practice them and make them part of your normal riding.

For more advice, see Turning a motorcycle.